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Trump Talks Trade, Peace & Immigration in NBC Interview
Above: President Trump and Kristen Welker during an NBC Meet the Press interview on April 4, 2025. Image copyright: NBC via Fox News
The Spin
Pro-Trump narrative
This was a fundamentally dishonest and hostile interview by the mainstream media. On tariffs, especially, NBC host Kristen Welker made outlandish claims about the economy, which were fundamentally false and designed to paint the president in a negative light. The president, however, stood his ground, asserted the positives of his policy, and called out Welker for her falsehoods.
Anti-Trump narrative
This interview provided disturbing insight into Trump’s state of mind. On the Constitution, for example, the president displayed an alarming disregard for the law, repeatedly refusing to answer on the importance of due process. Meanwhile on some of America's closest allies, Canada and Denmark, he repeated his belligerent rhetoric, threatening military action against the latter and demeaning the sovereignty of the former. In all, Trump’s NBC interview was a mask-off moment for the president.